medicare reform with this move of teh populace to private insurance, HMO i assum. i dont disagree with that. i was in the one in new york, and it suited me fine. but then, i'm not like a lot of people who will use the ER for a sniffle. so, ya, i can agree with this. and i think the objections are strictly political. so, mr bush, you follow up on this in the 'right' way, and not the 'right-wing' way, it will work. ok diva